The New York Times: “Six Takeaways From the First Presidential Debate”; CNN: Thanks To Trump, The Presidential Debate Was a “Shit Show”

Below is an excellent analysis of the first Presidential debate between President Donald Trump and Vice President Jo Biden that was published in the New York Times followed by the link to the article. The article was written by Shane Goldmacher who is a national political reporter. Mr. Goldmacher was previously the chief political correspondent for the Metro Desk. Before joining The Times, he worked at Politico, where he covered national Republican politics and the 2016 presidential campaign. The New York Times article is followed by blogger COMMENTARY AND ANALYSIS.


It was 90 minutes of chaos in a year of upheaval. But did it matter?

President Trump and Joseph R. Biden Jr. appeared onstage together for the first time on Tuesday. It was not exactly a debate.

Shouting, interruptions and often incoherent cross talk filled the air as Mr. Trump purposefully and repeatedly heckled and blurted over his rival and the moderator alike in a 90-minute melee that showcased the president’s sense of urgency to upend a race in which polls show him trailing.

Mr. Biden labored to get his points in over Mr. Trump’s stream of interjections, turning directly to the camera for refuge from a scrum that hardly represented a contest of ideas. But Mr. Biden did not stumble, contradicting months of questions from the Trump campaign about his mental fitness, and Mr. Trump seemed to do little to bring over voters who were not already part of his base.

The impact on the race of the messy affair — given that 90 percent of voters say they are already decided — is an open question.

Here are six takeaways from the first debate:


From the opening bell, Mr. Trump came out as an aggressor, speaking over Mr. Biden in what seemed to be almost din-by-design: Pull the former vice president, who has run as a statesman promising to restore the soul of America, into a mud-slinging contest.

He bulldozed Mr. Biden and the moderator, Chris Wallace, throughout the evening. But his goal, other than making for a convoluted contest, was less clear. Mr. Trump seemed principally focused on undercutting and disorienting Mr. Biden, rather than on presenting an agenda or a vision for a second term in the White House.

“I’ve seen better-organized food fights at summer camp,” said Michael Steel, a Republican strategist. “But Trump needed a clear ‘W,’ and he didn’t get it.”

Mr. Biden’s own performance was mostly adequate. He swallowed some of his own lines, and Mr. Trump talked over others.

Before the debate, Mr. Wallace had said that, if successful, his job was to be “as invisible as possible.” He sometimes managed to recede, though at other times he was caught up in the shout-fest. Rarely did he exert control over the chaos. “If you want to switch seats?” he offered gamely at one point to Mr. Trump.

The performance kept the focus squarely on Mr. Trump — often where he seems to like it — but also where the Biden campaign wants all the attention in a 2020 election the Democrat has cast as a referendum on the current president.


Mr. Biden’s visceral dislike of Mr. Trump practically burst through the screen. He told Mr. Trump to shut up. He called him a clown and a liar. He tagged him as a racist. “You’re the worst president America has ever had,” he said at one point. “Keep yapping, man,” he said at another.

But for the most part, Mr. Biden succeeded in avoiding the chum that Mr. Trump was tossing into the debate water. Instead, he kept turning — physically — to face the cameras and address the American people instead of his chattering rival.

“This is not about my family or his family,” Mr. Biden said at one point, after Mr. Trump tried to bait him with an attack on his son Hunter. “It’s about your family. The American people. He doesn’t want to talk about what you need.”

The former vice president was strongest and most comfortable on the issues that he has focused on overwhelmingly in the last six months: the coronavirus pandemic and the resulting economic downturn.

“How well are you doing?” Mr. Biden asked the television audience about the economy, casting Mr. Trump as the candidate of the well-to-do, seizing on the recent report from The New York Times that Mr. Trump had paid only $750 in federal income taxes in both 2016 and 2017.

Turning to the cameras gave Mr. Biden refuge from the constant stream of words coming from across the stage, and it helped him land some of his more effective and empathetic lines — an area that his advisers see as crucial to his appeal.

When Mr. Trump bragged about his large rallies that are being held against the guidance of many public health officials, Mr. Biden said, “He’s not worried about you.”


Mr. Trump is the president. He held his convention speech on the White House grounds. But he found some of his greatest success four years ago when running against Hillary Clinton as a failed Washington insider. And he is not ready to give up that angle in 2020.

In the 2016 debates, Mr. Trump hammered Mrs. Clinton over her failure to fundamentally change the country. “She’s been doing this for 30 years,” he said then.

He reprised the same line almost verbatim against Mr. Biden. “Why didn’t you do it over the last 25 years?” Mr. Trump challenged him about overhauling the tax code.

“In 47 months,” Mr. Trump said in one of his better, if clearly well-prepared, lines, “I’ve done more than you’ve done in 47 years, Joe.”

Like it was for Mrs. Clinton, it was at times a hard attack for Mr. Biden to answer. But unlike her, he had Mr. Trump’s record to slash at.

“He’s going to be the first president of the United States,” Mr. Biden countered at one point, “to leave office having fewer jobs in his administration when he became president.”


One of the chief reasons Mr. Biden has said he is running for president as a 77-year-old is because of the white nationalists who gathered in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 and Mr. Trump’s unwillingness to condemn them.

The president declined to condemn white supremacists again on Tuesday, despite being asked directly by Mr. Wallace if he would do so.

“I’m willing to do that,” Mr. Trump began, before instead saying that “almost everything I see is from the left wing. Not from the right.”

Eventually, after Mr. Biden suggested he condemn the Proud Boys, a far-right organization widely condemned as a hate group, Mr. Trump declared, “Proud Boys: Stand back and stand by.”

It was a moment likely to outlast the night.

Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, said: “The problem is not that Trump refused to condemn white supremacy. It’s much worse. It’s that he acknowledged he was their leader by telling them to ‘Stand by.’”

Later, Mr. Trump also refused to say he would abide by the results of the election and declined to tell his supporters to stay calm and avoid civil unrest.

“If I see tens of thousands of ballots, I can’t go along with that,” Mr. Trump said, urging his supporters go to polls and “watch very carefully.”

Mr. Biden said he would abide by the results and urged calm.


Mr. Biden has staked himself to a steady lead in the race largely due a historic gender gap: Women are supporting him far more than Mr. Trump, and by a far greater margin than Mr. Trump’s advantage among men.

While Mr. Trump tried at times to explicitly tailor his points to suburban women, who have been at the center of his demographic erosion, his bullying performance seemed unlikely to win them back.

Mr. Trump has long seen politics in terms of strength and weakness, winning and losing, but his interruptions and self-aggrandizing seemed ill-suited to expanding his political coalition.

“Unless his strategy was to alienate more women to see if that helps him pick up more men, no,” said Sarah Isgur, who was a spokeswoman for Jeff Sessions when he was serving as attorney general in the Trump administration and who is now a writer for The Dispatch, a conservative news site.

Or as Anne Caprara, a Democratic strategist and chief of staff to Gov. J.B. Pritzker of Illinois, put it, “I don’t know any woman watching that who isn’t going to be disgusted by everything Trump did.”

Mr. Trump’s struggles in the suburbs are, in part, a result of his diminishing support among college-educated voters. His mocking of Mr. Biden’s decision to regularly wear a mask — which health officials have recommended — underscored his rejection of science when it suits his political purposes.

”I don’t wear a mask like him,” Mr. Trump said. “Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from it, and he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve seen.”


Beyond his attacks on Mr. Biden’s mental fitness — which redounded to Mr. Biden’s benefit by driving down expectations for his performance — one of Mr. Trump’s most consistent lines of attack has been that Mr. Biden is actually a leftist or even a socialist masquerading as a centrist.

Mr. Trump, whose narrow 2016 victory was aided by disaffected liberal supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders who either stayed home or voted for a third party, has worked hard to foment ideological divisions among Democrats.

Mr. Biden repeatedly took the opportunities on Tuesday to distance himself from his party’s left wing — without denouncing them. And he left little doubt who was in charge.
“The party is me, right now,” Mr. Biden said. “I am the Democratic Party.”

He said his eventual stance on adding seats to the Supreme Court — on which he has avoided taking a position — would become the party line, and he rejected the Green New Deal without looking down on expansive environmentalism.

“I support the Biden plan,” he said.

Mr. Biden’s delivery was not always forceful. He did occasionally lose his cool and succumb to Mr. Trump’s barrage of taunts. But he mostly emerged unscathed, and for most Democrats, anything but a loss was welcomed as a clear win.

The link to the New York Times article is here:


CNN anchor Jake Tapper said what many were all thinking following the first 2020 presidential debate between President Donald Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden:

“That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck. That was the worst debate I have ever seen. … [it] wasn’t even a debate … [it] was a disgrace. … And it’s primarily because of President Trump. We’ll talk about who won the debate and who lost. One thing for sure, the American people lost tonight. That was horrific.”

CNN correspondent Dana Bash was even more direct than her colleague, saying Tapper took the words out of her mouth before using a bit of profanity to describe the train wreck:

“I’m going to say it like it is … That was a shit show. We’re on cable. We can say it. Apologies for being crude. But that is really the phrase I’m getting from people on both sides of the aisle on text and the only phrase I can think of to describe it.”


Clown, liar, racist. These are 3 labels Vice President Joe Biden said to Trump’s face before a national audience of 100 Million and there was not a damn thing Trump could do about it except interrupt and try to bully Biden and the moderator Chris Wallace. I cannot recall any report over the last 4 years of anyone doing so directly to Trumps face, and Trump had no response.

Biden went so far as to tell Trump:

“Will you shut up man? The fact is that everything he’s saying so far is simply a lie. I’m not here to call out his lies. Everybody knows he’s a liar. … It’s hard to get a word in with this clown. … This is a president who has used everything as a dog whistle to try to generate racist hatred, racist division.”

For his part, all Trump did over and over and over again was to try and control the conversation as his orange make up became shinier and shinier from sweating. Trump repeatedly talked over moderator Chris Wallace and tried to deflect tough lines of questioning, whether on his taxes or the pandemic to deliver insults against Biden in an effort to shake Biden or irritate him. It simply did not work and Biden held his own.


In the wake of the killing of African American George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer who knelt on Floyd’s neck to subdue him, the Black Lives Matter Movement is sweeping cities across the country. Major protests have broken out after the deaths of African Americans at the hands of police. Biden said the vast majority of police officers are “decent, honorable men and women” and that there are “bad apples” and people have to be held accountable and made it clear that the country faces a problem with systemic racism.

Trump tried to deflect the issue of systemic racism by claiming Biden’s work on a federal crime bill treated the African American population “about as bad as anybody in this country.” Trump made a political pivot to his hardline focus on those protesting racial injustice and went on to accuse Biden of being afraid to use the words “law and order,” out of fear of alienating the progressive in the party. Biden for his part responded:

“Violence in response is never appropriate. … Never appropriate. Peaceful protest is.”


As Trump has done for the last few months, he again refused to commit to honoring the results of the election. Trump again spread falsehoods about mail voting. Without any evidence, Trump said there will be mass election fraud with mail in balloting. Trump made up a lies out of whole cloth that ballots have been discarded with votes for him found in a wastebasket and found in a river and improprieties at a Pennsylvania voting site.

Biden’s response was clear as he spoke directly into the camera to the American people: get out and vote however you can, in person, by mail or with early voting, there is too much at stake. Biden did say he would honor the election results and would commit to wait until all the votes are counted.

It has been reported that up 70% of Democrats will be voting by absentee while Trump supporters will be voting in person. One nightmare scenario that has been advanced is that Trump will declare himself the victor election night in the swing states when he may have an early lead because of in person voting and challenge absentee voting in order throw votes out by the hundreds of thousands to deprive Biden the victory.


The full hour and half was not in any way a debate, but more of a shouting match between the two. Trump and Biden argued repeatedly often interrupting each other over Trump’s handling of the pandemic, the integrity of the election results, and how the Supreme Court will shape the future of the nation’s health care and repeal of a woman’s right to choose. Trump threw in personal attacks about Biden’s family, especially Hunter Biden for good measure. The discussions repeatedly veered off topic. Trump again refused to embrace the science of climate change. Biden accused Trump of walking away from the American promise of equity for all and appealing to racism and division in the country.

It was amazing to watch the commentary made by the political analysts after analysts on the major networks. Virtually all characterized the debate as the worst Presidential Debate that they have ever seen. The one analysist on CNN went so far to characterize the debate as a “shit show” and she was beyond accurate. What is striking is that Trump’s approach and debate performance was the exact same approach that his supporters use whenever they justify what he is doing or try to debate the issues: bullying, lying and throwing feces at anyone who disagrees with them or him.

This madness has got to stop. People need to vote and make sure they follow all the instructions on the absentee voting if they vote before election day. The lying, orange clown, racist has got to go!

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Pete Dinelli was born and raised in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is of Italian and Hispanic descent. He is a 1970 graduate of Del Norte High School, a 1974 graduate of Eastern New Mexico University with a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration and a 1977 graduate of St. Mary's School of Law, San Antonio, Texas. Pete has a 40 year history of community involvement and service as an elected and appointed official and as a practicing attorney in Albuquerque. Pete and his wife Betty Case Dinelli have been married since 1984 and they have two adult sons, Mark, who is an attorney and George, who is an Emergency Medical Technician (EMT). Pete has been a licensed New Mexico attorney since 1978. Pete has over 27 years of municipal and state government service. Pete’s service to Albuquerque has been extensive. He has been an elected Albuquerque City Councilor, serving as Vice President. He has served as a Worker’s Compensation Judge with Statewide jurisdiction. Pete has been a prosecutor for 15 years and has served as a Bernalillo County Chief Deputy District Attorney, as an Assistant Attorney General and Assistant District Attorney and as a Deputy City Attorney. For eight years, Pete was employed with the City of Albuquerque both as a Deputy City Attorney and Chief Public Safety Officer overseeing the city departments of police, fire, 911 emergency call center and the emergency operations center. While with the City of Albuquerque Legal Department, Pete served as Director of the Safe City Strike Force and Interim Director of the 911 Emergency Operations Center. Pete’s community involvement includes being a past President of the Albuquerque Kiwanis Club, past President of the Our Lady of Fatima School Board, and Board of Directors of the Albuquerque Museum Foundation.